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goose 6:23 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

i wonder who has what pet??

Payet had a pet monkey
Ginge deffo has a lizard
Kouyate has an owl
Nordviegt prob has a stick insect

Lee Trundle 6:21 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

I'm pretty sure it was reported on earlier in the season. They're apparently allowed to bring their WAGS, kids, dogs, nanny, etc. to training to create a family atmosphere.

Whether it's stopped, or was even true in the first place, I'm not sure. I would hope it's bollocks though.

El Scorchio 6:03 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

Lee Trundle 5:48

Sorry... the players are allowed to bring their fucking pets into work with them?

Jesus wept.

Alex V 5:58 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

Sniper 5:34 Thu Apr 6

I suppose I'm not as sure. I think a bunch of our players are basically overrated, living off reputations that their performances don't match. I don't think that excuses coaching - the whole job of a coach is to make players better. If they get inexplicably worse then the coach is responsible for that. Some of our players will regain their form later in their careers - others won't imo.

I also think we underestimate the opposition a bit. I don't believe we have a forward any better than Lloriente, Defoe or Negredo. Or defenders better than Ranocchia, Gibson, Kone. Etc.

There's a small handful of players in our squad that I'm excited about. Most of them young players with promise. The rest could go this Summer and I'd probably be fairly happy about it.

goose 5:49 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

and then you have the debacle of the 1st goal v Chelsea. Lanzini is clearly gonna shoot and you've got Fonte and Reid on the edge of the fucking wall!! for what purpose?

its like the entire game plan is just thrown together.

Lee Trundle 5:48 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

If the stories are true, then the first thing I'd do (this won't go down with Northern Sold) is ban staff from bringing their dogs to training.

If you treat training like a walk in a park, then you probably end up playing like you're going for a walk in a park.

goose 5:48 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

as mentioned below - everyone knows what a threat Carroll is but we hardly play to it.

when Crouch was at spurs, Redknapp had them working on diagonal balls into Crouch which eh would knock down for Van der Vaart. worked quite a few times for them.

only time we get Carroll into the game is set pieces or the odd floaty cross.

cartis 5:48 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

Even taking into account our poor squad of players a decent manager should be able to get them to mid table at least.
Bilic doesn't appear to have a clue how to set up the team and worse still how to react to an opposing manager changing formation the recent match at Hull being a prime example.

Fucking hard to know how things wil improve at the moment.
If we are lucky enough to limp over the line and survive sacking Bilic would be a start in an ideal world the loathsome Gold and Sullivan would fuck off as well.

El Scorchio 5:41 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

I agree.

The players are not playing as well as they can do, and as well as we've all seen them do previously

Sniper 5:34 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

Thats my point though alex - they aren't performing because of the coaching and system. Elsewhere that wouldn't be an issue.

Alex V 5:08 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

>>> Reid, ogbonna, fonte, Antonio, obiang, lanzini, Carroll, ayew and cresswell would get in most teams in the league.

On reputation you'd think they might. The reality imo is that few would on their form this season. Having name players is not enough - they have to play to their reputation.

Sniper 3:23 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

We may not have world beating players but the likes of Reid, ogbonna, fonte, Antonio, obiang, lanzini, Carroll, ayew and cresswell would get in most teams in the league. We aren't full of shittybchampionship quality players like Sunderland or boro. And though we haven't signed amazing players, snodgrass has proven himself at two other clubs in this league so he's not out of his depth. Bilic just seems to have no clue how to set his team up to get the best out of his players.

You have two options as a manager - pick a formation that suits the players you have or pick the way you you want to play and buy players to fill the gaps you've got. We don't even seem to know what we are doing in any game, and even down to continual nonsense of playing Antonio and ayew on the wrong flanks or lanzini on the wing are just pure nonsense

Spandex Sidney 3:20 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

100% down to the management and coaching.

Good coaching gets 100% out of players every week, look how the likes of Swansea and Bournemouth scrap and put in effort and commitment despite having worse squads than us.

Bilic clearly tolerates laziness and a culture of failure. Fuck him, it's up to him to get the maximum from the players. Leicester should show you that.

Sniper 3:19 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

We may not have world beating players but the likes of Reid, ogbonna, fonte, Antonio, obiang, lanzini, Carroll, ayew and cresswell would get in most teams in the league. We aren't full of shittybchampionship quality players like Sunderland or boro. And though we haven't signed amazing players, snodgrass has proven himself at two other clubs in this league so he's not out of his depth. Bilic just seems to have no clue how to set his team up to get the best out of his players.

You have two options as a manager - pick a formation that suits the players you have or pick the way you you want to play and buy players to fill the gaps you've got. We don't even seem to know what we are doing in any game, and even down to continual nonsense of playing Antonio and ayew on the wrong flanks or lanzini on the wing are just pure nonsense

camel-with-3-humps 3:05 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

Can't defend, players are lazy, no tactical direction, midfield with less pace than a one-legged tortoise with cramp.

Slav is to blame. A mumbling wreck that should have been sacked after the 3 - 0 Southampton home loss. He is the gangrenous leg that needs to be chopped and only then can we finally limp away from relegation.

Stranded 2:36 Thu Apr 6
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Both. Some of them aren’t up to standard. But with those that are, Bilic has a lot to answer for in regards to formations, tactics, substitutions, general mentality etc. Equally, the players are all professionals, and very well rewarded for it. So unless his instruction to them is a strict “Shit yourself and play like you don’t know how to” some of them need to be taking a long hard look in the mirror.

DJH 2:26 Thu Apr 6
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The club has no structure, so either you continue to spend to compensate for that or you put one in place which it seems our owners are unwilling or incapable of doing.

The manager either has overall control of everything football wise at a club or you have a coach who works with what he is given, for me Bilic was never good enough to be the former and the players overall are not good enough to suit Bilic's style management for the latter to be a long term success.

I don't think Bilic has anything like the control of the footballing side as we are led to believe, at best I reckon he identifies positions that need strengthening and may recommend some players but ultimately someone else is doing the recruiting, so it is fine saying Bilic has the final say but if the standard of recruitment is the likes of Byram and Hogan then it is pretty much Hobson's choice for him.

Therefore we need to recruit better or put in a proper structure throughout the club otherwise we will always be a bad transfer window away from struggle.

HairyHammer 2:21 Thu Apr 6
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I also agree with Baggins and Russ whenever you watch West ham they do not have a clue what they are meant to do they always look confused, where as other teams set up is constant and every player knows their job inside out.

HairyHammer 2:16 Thu Apr 6
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I think both the coaching and players have not been up to scratch, did Bilic tell his players to stand off of Leicester players in that terrible 8 minutes but they did, add to that many lack lustre performances too, and Slavs substitutions and constant playing of players in not their actual position is ridiculous.too.
Poor from both Manager and players .

Your mum 2:11 Thu Apr 6
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It's a culmination of most things being shit at the same time, players, manager, coaches, owners, stadium, fans, all shit.

Russ of the BML 2:08 Thu Apr 6
Re: What is the cause of our on field problems? Players or coaching?

I mean, do you change what the players know but can't achieve. Or do you stick and hope that they fucking get it? Running out of games now and if we lose to Swansea on Saturday then I think we will go down.

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